Music Helps Vets Control Symptoms of PTSD

Monday, March 08, 2010

The khaki colored Veterans Affairs (VA) clinic in southern New Jersey doesn’t look extraordinary from the outside. The parking lot’s too small and the building isn’t impressive either—just a simple one-story structure with a utilitarian blue awning to keep veterans out of the elements as they enter and exit the James J. Howard Outpatient Clinic. But inside, there’s some groundbreaking healing going on, specifically in the psychiatry ward. This morning, 15 Vietnam War veterans are in the group therapy room. They all have their eyes on a woman in a deep red skirt suit and pumps known around the clinic as “The Violin Doc.”

The lady in red is Dr. Mary Rorro and to be accurate, the 41-year-old’s getting ready to play her viola, not a violin. The viola is deeper in tone than the violin but higher in pitch than the cello. Charles Browne is one of the group’s participants awaiting his doctor’s performance. She’s a staff psychiatrist, but today she’s playing music to him and his fellow vets so they can relax and talk openly for the next hour about how they’re doing with their Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, or PTSD.

“People talk about their Vietnam experiences and a lot of times people talk about, you know, reacting to loud noises and stuff,” says Browne, a 61-year-old retired Army infantry platoon leader and company commander. Browne served in Vietnam from 1969 to ’70. “I never had those issues. But for 20 years or so I slept like one hour a night. And I would say, you know, that’s the only residue I have from Vietnam…that I just don’t sleep.”

Getting veterans like Browne back on their feet once they’ve returned from the war zone is becoming an increasingly urgent goal for the VA. PTSD has been around for centuries, and in the past was called Soldier’s Heart, Battle Fatigue, Shell Shock, and Vietnam Syndrome. It was not until the ‘80s that the medical community officially recognized the disease and began to hammer out a treatment plan. There’s still no known cure, but treatment has progressed. Medication, conversation, and therapy can help veterans manage the disorder. But in recent years, the VA has acknowledged that the number of vets with the disorder has become a serious problem. In its last fiscal year, the VA diagnosed around 400,000 vets with PTSD, almost twice as many as it counted five years ago. Another surprising trend is the large number of Vietnam veterans just coming forward now with previously undiagnosed and untreated PTSD.

“They have been averse to treatment because of shame or stigma,” Dr. Rorro says. “They're not able to access services until they’re at a turning point in their lives.”

One key way the VA is helping these veterans to control their PTSD—and other conditions, including substance abuse, Parkinson’s Disease and head trauma injuries—is through music therapy. In the last five years, the VA has more than doubled the number of music therapists at its clinics. And with more PTSD cases on the way from Operations Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom, Dr. Mary Rorro and others have their work cut out for them. The Violin Doc knows the symptoms of PTSD all too well.

Video by WNYC's Richard Yeh

“They suffer from recurrent intrusive memories,” Dr. Rorro says. “Nightmares that can be very vivid, and very real, and startle them and awaken them at night producing some night sweats. Some of them even now feel like they could be back in Vietnam even though they know that they’re back in safe country.”

That’s where the music therapy comes in. Studies show that music can trigger the brain to release chemicals that distract the body from pain. When music reaches the brain’s auditory cortex, there’s communication between the cortex and the brain’s areas that control emotion, memory, and motor control. “At times, music can serve as a springboard during discussion,” Dr. Rorro says. “You can feel the weight of some of the emotional state of the group.”

Dr. Rorro is not a certified music therapist. Veterans who need more focused treatment are admitted to VA hospitals where they can work with therapists in depth, playing music themselves or listening to their therapists play. Good therapists can link music to a veteran’s psycho-emotional state by using a song with which the patient connects. The patient can then begin to cope with traumatic triggers and other PTSD symptoms.

Not any music will do. Although Dr. Rorro gets a request for “anything by The Dead” in today’s session, music with spoken words or lyrics has been proven to cause agitation when it’s played to PTSD patients. Sounds played on lower-pitched instruments, like Dr. Rorro’s viola, are more soothing than higher-pitched flutes and drums. Live music with a slower, steady beat is also preferable to recorded music. Individual choice of song is important for one-on-one treatment, and therapists do song preference tests to find out what music best connects with individual veterans in treatment.

For this group, Dr. Rorro has chosen to begin with “Amazing Grace,” “Memory” from the Broadway hit "Cats," and the Irish folk song “O’ Danny Boy.” First, she whips her viola to her chin and plays a few bars of the Navy fight song “Anchors Aweigh,” a request from a former midshipman. A few minutes later, the previously rowdy group of vets falls quiet when they hear her play “Amazing Grace,” which was written by a British Royal Navy man in 1779. One veteran gets choked up by the velvety sounds of the viola. Others are lost in thought.

Charles BrowneCharles Browne says Dr. Rorro’s music takes him back to his youth. “Music has always been a respite for me,” he says. “I grew up in a household of jazz lovers. So there was always jazz in the house.”

That was before he was drafted into the Army at age 20. Browne was an infantryman in Vietnam assigned to search and destroy missions and to keep his men alive. “You’re either in a fire or in an ambush or reacting to an ambush.”

He got a purple heart for his efforts. But when he came back, Browne says his anxiety problems began. “Road rage. I was very quiet and into myself. I don’t really socialize. I tried to go back to college and I couldn’t deal with the things important to college students. So you kind of go deeper into a shell.”

A friend referred him to the VA four years ago and Browne says that was when he started to feel things were getting better. Now he sleeps five hours, rather than one, a night. Browne says Dr. Rorro advised him to play music to help him sleep. “And to me there’s nothing better than music. It’s very important to me. It brings back good memories to me.”

The VA may be relying more on music therapy these days, but the idea behind the treatment is far from new. Since the early 19th century, music therapy has been practiced in the U.S., according to the American Music Therapy Association. It was during World War II that doctors paid serious attention to the beneficial effects that music had on wounded soldiers’ morale. They noticed speedier recoveries after local musicians performed at VA hospitals. The first music therapy program was then developed at the Topeka, Kan., veterans’ hospital. Music therapy became a university discipline in 1944 at Western Michigan University.

It’s unclear why the VA waited so long to bring music therapy back as a treatment. But Joseph Hammond, whose PTSD was diagnosed in 2001, is just glad it did.

“I’m into classical music,” the retired Army mechanic says. Hammond served in Vietnam for 20 months, beginning in 1967. “To get through the night, I would listen to classical music—sometimes rock and roll, but it was too loud and bouncy. Classical music actually did help me to calm down and get through the night without too much problem.”

Joe HammondHammond says he first killed a person during the Tet offensive, a military campaign that began in Vietnam in 1968. After he got back, Hammond says he had suicidal thoughts, uncontrollable rage, and couldn’t keep a job. Civilian hospitals didn’t know what to do for him so they prescribed drugs that led to weight gain but didn’t help his anxiety.

“One time I was down in the kitchen and I was just so frustrated I took it out on a toaster,” Hammond says. “With my fist…right in the middle of the toaster. It just caved right in.” Another time, he remembers talking to his wife in the bathroom when another spell hit. “I grabbed ahold of the vanity and I wanted to tear it off the wall.” Hammond’s wife thought he was mad at her. “I said, ‘No, it happens a lot, you just happened to be there…’”

Hammond has flashbacks regularly while talking about Vietnam, though it was more than 30 years ago. “I mean a lot of people, they don’t see a wound on the outside. So [they say] how can there be something wrong with you?” the burly 62-year-old says. “But they don’t understand the mental part of it. There’s memories. There’s things that you’ve seen over there that you don’t want to discuss with anybody.”

Hammond looks forward to the group therapy sessions. He says they’re comic relief and that’s just the kind of progress Dr. Rorro is hoping for. “The music has been just wonderful for them,” she says. “It’s very evocative of different things. So I play...and they get a lot of benefit out of it.”

Dr. Rorro’s penultimate song for today is the “Marines’ Hymn,” the oldest military song in the book, and it’s usually sung at attention. The music from the song is taken from the comic operetta Genevieve de Brabant by Romantic cellist and composer Jacques Offenbach. “Now we gotta stand,” one of the veterans says when she starts playing.

She ends with the last movement of Ludwig van Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony. It’s usually set to “Ode to Joy,” Francis Schiller’s 1785 poem. It’s a good one to end on. Dr. Rorro double-stops while playing the song, which is when two strings are played simultaneously. Her finale is Randall Remington’s favorite. “Kinda takes you away from the bad things,” says Remington, another vet in the room. “It puts you in a different frame of mind [from] getting shelled, rocket attacks, things like that.”

When the concerto is over, the veterans give Dr. Rorro a rousing send-off. The mood in the room is light and the vets act as though they’ve forgotten why they’re here and the PTSD they acquired while serving their country more than 30 years ago. Before Dr. Rorro leaves, the group even gives her a little good-natured ribbing. “Are you related to Charlie Daniels?” one vet asks, referring to the white bearded, country music fiddler from North Carolina. “Amazing how you get some of the sounds of that,” says another. “Saving up for the Stradivarius?”

“Yeh, this is a copy,” The Violin Doc says as she makes her exit. And that’s the end of today’s viola therapy, a program she’s begun to call “A Few Good Notes.” She encourages any hospital worker to take five minutes of their day to pick up an instrument and play for veterans or simply sing them a song. “I do it to show appreciation for their services, and in addition, for the therapeutic effects,” Dr. Rorro says. “The music can be comforting and fill some with melancholy. But that's good because you want to have them process that as well.” 

Dr. Mary Rorro’s Playlist

Marchenbilder Langsam movement

Robert Schumann

Nessun Dorma

Giacomo Puccini

The melodic pieces highlight the viola’s velvety tone, and are exceptionally beautiful, placing the listeners in a contemplative mood.


Andrew Lloyd Webber

from the Broadway musical Cats

It seems to evoke recollections of buddies lost in battle. Lyrics are hopeful that through the melancholic remembrance of times long past, ‘a new day will begin.

O’ Danny Boy


It is often requested by veterans around St. Patrick’s Day to pay homage to those who made sacrifices in service to their country.

O Mio Babbino Caro

Giacomo Puccini

A languid piece that lulls the veterans into a dreamy realm of peace and serenity.

Ave Maria

Gabriel Fauré

It induces a state of meditation and reflection for veterans.

Symphony No. 9

Ludwig van Beethoven

A triumphant theme of heroic proportion that is uplifting and inspiring.

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Richard Yeh


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Comments [24]

C. Napolitano

Dr Rorro...You are truely an inspiration and such a compassionate person to devote so much time to your profession.God Bless you...and as always , thank you for your time spent with us :)

Aug. 27 2010 09:02 PM

Thank you. Thats all I can say. Thank you.

Jun. 02 2010 06:06 PM
Seema Chandler from Princeton, New Jersey

WQXR thanks for sharing this amazing story! Dr. Rorro congratulations to you for offering peace and comfort to your patients!

Mar. 21 2010 08:51 AM
Hedi Katz from California

What a fantastic concept. Things that heal in a natural way (sans pills) should be celebrated and even become standard. It's easy to forget the incredible effect that music has on the soul and the body. Bravo Dr. Rorro and the VA for recognizing and harnessing its power!

Mar. 15 2010 08:45 PM
Vincent Mcdermott from N.J

This was a true inspiration to listen to and watch on YouTube. I know that I felt the music touch my soul because of the small tear drop that rolled down my cheek, this act of kindness and use of talent is a witness to healing and comforting to the veterans such as myself and others that participate. Music continues to change lives and transform them. Peace to all.

Mar. 15 2010 12:14 PM
John Booth

Thank you for telling this story. What a beautiful gift the good doctor brings to help our veterans find healing and peace.

Mar. 11 2010 11:27 PM
Sean from Manasquan, NJ

In the hands of a talented musician the melodic tones of the viola are both soothing and relaxing. Using music as an adjunct to traditional treatments shows creativity and innovation. Our vets deserve nothing less.

Mar. 11 2010 07:54 PM
larry from New Jersey

I am a Vet and know Doc Rorro and would like to convey what a wonderful person she is. She has helped me and many other vets immensely . Every year just before Christmas she give us a wonderful concert of seasonal music many of us have trouble with the holidays and she always perks up our spirits.

Mar. 11 2010 05:51 PM
Nancy Zorochin

What a beautiful tribute to our soldiers and what a wonderful way for Dr. Rorro to connect with them and therapeutically help them in their journey to recovery. Thank you!

Mar. 10 2010 08:40 PM
Robert from New Jersey

I am so glad to see such wonderful talent used in such a rehabilitating way.

Mar. 10 2010 04:38 PM
Mario Marano from Toms River, NJ

BRAVO!, Dr. Rorro.

I am glad to see that your many talents benefit humankind and especially our Veterans.
Keep up the good work.
Sempre Avanti!

Mar. 10 2010 03:33 PM
Shep Katz from Long Island, NY

What a wonderful concept. The video clearly showed how it helped the participants. This should be expanded to other maladies not just PTSD.

Mar. 10 2010 02:04 PM
Karen Barton

Mary! I wish you'd left your email address so I could communicate with you directly. This is a tremendously impressive article. Long and with video. I assume you will have copies made and available for those interested.

Mar. 10 2010 12:29 PM
Eileen Poiani

Warmest congratulations, Dr. Rorro, on your double talent of psychiatry and music! The harmony of your professional expertise, your caring presence, and your viola music brings healing and transformation to all who listen. Thank you for making a positive difference in the lives of others.

Mar. 10 2010 11:20 AM
Fernando Raucci from Princeton

I am a professional musician and when I see how Dr. Mary Rorro studies the PTSD healing process give me the strength to continue to shear all my life with music. I cannot imagine a world without music!Thank you Dr. Mary for shearing with us this beautiful experience.

Mar. 10 2010 09:47 AM

Wonderful to see how these men respond to something as soothing as classical music. They've been through so much and sacrificed so much. Dr. Rorro is to be commended on her work integrating music and other therapies. She is obviously totally dedicated to improving these men's lives.

Mar. 09 2010 11:51 PM
N. Watson from Kentucky

What an affirmation that we do have doctors such as Dr. Rorro who are "in tune" with their patients on multiple levels of need. Kudos to Dr. Rorro.

Mar. 09 2010 09:50 PM

Thank you Dr. Rorro and God Bless You.

Mar. 09 2010 06:12 PM
Henry Beechhold from New Mexico

Mary (whom I have known for many years) is providing PTSDers a service of great richness and inestimable value. I am a WW II PTSD case from WWII, and, as a musician and composer, I know the incalculable value music has in my own life. Thank you, Mary, for your brilliant work!

Mar. 09 2010 03:46 PM
Guido Luccarelli

As a veteran of the Korean war I have the greatest admiration for Dr. Mary Rorro. The way she combat PTSD healing process is really GREAT.
I wish her all the luck in the world and may the good Lord forever bless her.

Mar. 09 2010 12:04 AM
Elisa Coccia from New Jersey

I have had the pleasure of hearing Dr. Mary Rorro play the viola and know the joy she brings others. The link between music and therapy is remarkable and I would like to thank WQXR for sharing this amazing story with us. Life without music would truly "B" flat.

Mar. 08 2010 10:54 PM

What a wonderful piece on the power of classical music to help those who are suffering. My congratulations to Dr. Rorro, who offers comfort and peace to her patients by sharing her considerable talents. Additional kudos to WQXR for broadcasting this valuable segment.

Mar. 08 2010 09:05 PM
Jessica from United States

It's so good to see Dr. Rorro integrating her music with her clinical work with veterans. The patients seem so relaxed and soothed by her viola.

Thank you QXR for this moving tribute, which helps all of us to see the struggles Vietnam veterans still deal with. Please follow more stories on PTSD and music therapy, and other therapies. We Americans owe them our attention.

Mar. 08 2010 07:50 PM
Nina VanDeleur

I know Dr. Mary Rorro and I think the video will do wonders for those who view it, give them hope and understanding of what of Vets are going through and experiencing. Also, to appreciate the sacrifice that they made for our freedom. We should never forget or abandon thwm

Mar. 08 2010 04:49 PM

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